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hi
I am interested in setting cookies
I think that according to the EU regulation we violate by setting cookies we violate the rights of users and administrators

THE EUROPEAN PARLIAMENT AND THE COUNCIL OF THE EUROPEAN UNION,

Having regard to the Treaty establishing the European Community, and in particular Article 95 thereof,

Having regard to the proposal from the Commission ( 1 ),

Having regard to the opinion of the Economic and Social Committee ( 2 ),

Having consulted the Committee of the Regions,

Acting in accordance with the procedure laid down in Article 251 of the Treaty ( 3 ),

Whereas:
(1)

Directive 95/46/EC of the European Parliament and of the Council of 24 October 1995 on the protection of individuals with regard to the processing of personal data and on the free movement of such data ( 4 ) requires Member States to ensure the rights and freedoms of natural persons with regard to the processing of personal data, and in particular their right to privacy, in order to ensure the free flow of personal data in the Community.

the user is not free to choose to accept or reject the cookies setting. Admin does not have the freedom to decide whether to use them or not.

Users normally block cookies, but in PHP Fusion you can't even log in without cookies, which is incorrect
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We are a world wide CMS!
Also, naturally many EU based sites have a Cookie requirement for their services to operate. But it is up to the user to accept them or not. There are panels and addons for EU users who want to comply with regulatory notice.
One example : https://www.php-fusion.co.uk/infusion...ce/?id=571

Attached an Updated version for v9.
Edited by Falk on 25-01-2022 15:19,
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cookiebar_panel_1.zip [No information available / 63 Downloads]
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For functional cookies and Analytical cookies no permission is required, because this cookies contain no personal information.
For tracking cookies always permission required
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Then don't block cookies,
What's the problem with it?

They can't do any harm, only tracking cookies can sent personal information from one site to another
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it is not clear what cookies are used.
Apart from the lack of a choice, I disagree

cookie pannel

These are some Cookies that can and or will be set if you continue to use this site
Name Title Purpose Activated Duration
Initiated by Google Doubleclick
id Doubleclick ID Google uses the DoubleClick cookie on DFP sites, AdSense sites, partner sites and certain Google services to serve more relevant ads across the web and limit the number of times a given ad is shown to you. You should read more here. On visit 2 Years
Initiated by Google Analytics
__utma / __utmb / __utmc / __utmz Google Analytics Google Analytics uses cookies to define user sessions, and to provide a number of reporting features. These cookies are set or updated only to collect the data required for such reports, and are first-party. You can opt out here. On visit Up to 2 Years
Initiated by Youtube
Visitor_INFO1_LIVE / use-hitbox / PREF Youtube Youtube uses cookies to define user settings and preferences. These cookies are set to only handle yur clip views and settings. You can readmore about it here. Youtube viewing Up to 1 Year
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Sorry
correct text in cookies panel

These are some Cookies that can and or will be set if you continue to use this site
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when choosing a browser

in the election: Block third-party cookies

the panel remains displayed and the page does not work correctly
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If you block cookies the panel can not hide based on pref.
You are welcome to configure your site after any pref to suit your needs.
Depending on Addons and features the cookie list can and will differ a lot. This is not something we can track for users on Core level.
As mentioned above, we never place any tracking cookies at all so we are not obliged to announce it either.
Edited by Falk on 25-01-2022 17:57,
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ok
I was not satisfied with the answer but I will not do anything about it
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Remember: Most sites store your choice for accepting cookies or not in a cookie....
You can test it by yourself by clearing the cookies for your internet browser, Now al site's preference regarding cookies are gone.
You don't like cookies, but you can't browse without them.
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I know
in Brave browser I have Block third-party cookies
If I know I don't use third parties and I accept cookies then the cookie panel would close. If it does not close, there is a problem in the panel.
That's what common sense tells me
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Makes sense when the panel setting is cookie based.
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I don't know English so I'll try to explain the problem to you using the translator.
years ago, many community sites and forums stagnated and some declined.
On the events, I asked users why they do not visit and do not contribute to forums. The explanation is simple, loss of credibility due to user data collection.
In Austria, it is now even worse after detecting the misuse of stored data and cookies, according to investigator google analytics misused all data and sent it to the US. The investigation continues in Austria, Germany and the Netherlands.

The logic of developers and programmers can be logical, but you can't explain it to the user.
The logic of the programmers is different from that of the users.
Already around the year 2017-2018, users called for secure communication Sites / Forum to user, specifically S / MIME & openPGP signatures. The programmers rejected it as useless, the only one who has it is WP.
At the same time, the signature helps a lot in the fight against spam and fraudulent e-mails.
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I totally agree with douwe.

For other parts, PHPFusion is a session based CMS. Only for login, the browser must have a key to interact with PHPFusion without a login password. That key is the browser Cookie. Without it, the login period will be just for 1 second, and for security reason, we redirect after a login, and that automatically will logout anyone without the cookie.

As far as I know, the problem is not lying with a Cookie that is used by current visited website, but 3rd party cookies. That is the main difference. Most user do not mind users having cookies to interact with that site, it is given to you by the site because it trusts you, and therefore authenticate you in without rejecting you. But when a website introduces a 3rd party cookie that must be informed to user because injecting it without users knowledge is a breach of GDPR. That is actually where the drama is.

When a platform shares personal information with other people, it doesn't even need cookies. Here is the database, there you go. You get what I mean. The money nowadays is in targeted audience and they need age, sex, location to do that. These are not in a cookie, unless the website gives it out like what Facebook used to do via their "Login via Facebook". That button will give whole ton of information from Facebook to the website.

The other misuse of cookies is when one user visits a website, and that website poses a huge load of ads and pop up ads and banner ads and footer ads and pop up ads every overlays. Yes, to a point where it is inconvenient to use a website. When you use a cookie blocker, ads can't be served as these ads are "view based" for advertiser to pay to the current website you're viewing. When you block that cookie, the ads cannot be served to you because when advertiser cannot confirm whether you viewed it already or not.

All these, are not within the scope of PHPFusion CMS at any level.

PHPFusion is on a standard level. We don't go beyond, and we don't do less either. In the open web, the CMS is used by organizations and at the government level as well. So personally I do not think first party cookie is any issue at all.
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alright
I understand
Thank you
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