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Some would say that if we do not keep re-inventing the wheel, we would still be rolling on stone wheels

However, for some reason Captchas / security questions and so forth did not work for us, we had it all. We tried em all.
Still tons of spam came thru on a daily basis.
I had to do something and came up with The Fusion GateWay.

The Fusion GateWay prevents bots from learning if you look under the hood.
It combines Random output of simple math questions where it asks for reply in words / numbers and it also randomize how the question is asked.
What is Five-11 answer in numbers or What is 11-5 Answer in letters etc etc, all output is done with Rot47 Encryption and it also have a definable Honeypot array that randomizes, thus having the option to make it unique for each site as well.
If you answer wrong to many times (definable) or "tick" the Honeypot a IP Ban is imposed for 48h but only to the registration system.

It sure did the trick for us on this site when nothing else worked, Only "manual" spammers gets thru now on rare occasions. Best I ever did!

Super easy for people.. Not for bots.

@ozzWANTED No, it can't be on the same page. This is how it works. Registration form will not be displayed until you go through the gate.
Also, no one prevents you from adding your own solution. It's open source cms. You can edit whatever you want.


We have it already in v8 and v9...


We cannot add everything from v9 into v8 if you still want to use all old addons.

If you have a better solution or you have any ideas how improve it, we will be happy if you provide it to us.
You only complain about v9. Give real feedback or what needs to be improved, and we can solve all these problems.
From your previous posts:
Error log is already fixed.
Locales, atm we cannot to this in v9 but maybe in v10+


It was not me.. lol (btw. I don't use reputation at all.)

I don't remember you because I wasn't here in the v7 era. I'm in dev team since ~2016.

Before you suggest something, please check core. We already have Securimage in v8 and v9 core.
BTW. I'm still trying to fix everything as soon as possible.

I remember you had some contributions before officially joining the team. I left sometime in late 2016-early 2017, already being inactive as most other devs, when v7 was mature and there were still no final plans for v8, just some work here and there before the decision was made to jump to v9.

Yeah, I didn't check the core. I thought Securimage was no longer in v9, considering ozzWANTED suggested it and Domi said he switched to GateWay. Anyway, I'm not sure why that captcha failed for this site. I didn't have problems with it, on multiple v7 sites, and GateWay is easy to solve programmatically. Here's a demo, of course limited to solving and filling the form, but further automation is also possible:

[youtube]https://youtu.be/2bgENhKLjGk[/youtube]

Ofc. the questions is easy to read and solve, it is what is going on under hood that makes it work here.
GateWay comes with a lot more to it than the displayed questions.


I guess the sites where not interesting enough for the real bots to get in to.


Was a pretty bold statement with nothing to back it up in it, that video have still not done it.

I am little to busy to reply to statements that has no real proof of concepts behind them.
If you wanna crack gateway, go ahead and say told you so.
And I can say, look we changed arrays and methods to dictionary + custom and so forth.

The video shows nothing more than it can read text and numbers.


An obvious statement again with an obvious reply. Like do I really need to say something to such statements.

You should be happy that you are welcome here at all considering the massive inflammatory language against v9 from your former site.
Just remember that and read up on the CoC if you need to be reminded.

Before GateWay we tested multiple variations + security questions and bots was still going wild.
After GateWay , we are bot free, simple as that.

Even if someone solves GateWay for full automation and just not reading and solving the questions programmatically , it is super simple for us to adjust for it. GateWay can be made unique for each site as mentioned.

All I read is statements on something you have not looked deeper in to.
Quite annoying and damaging to people who might think it does not work at all instead due to that.

GateWay is optional, other Captchas exist, custom user fields can be added. Anything is possible! We like options here.

ozzW and I have been talking quite a lot in private and looking to have a deeper co-op in the future,
ozzW had also not looked closer on v8 or v9.

So we are all just discussing potato potato here.

Thread is way off the original topic. So I will close this, but by all means. Come with a how to improve GateWay thread if you want.